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Women in ministry: facing the cultural and clerical challenges
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I have a cuestion about a verse in the bible that talks about women not permited to speek in the congregation.I have no problem with women in ministry if they are doing God’s will. But I have a friend that doe’s have a problem with that issue.He told me that one time he went to a church and a women was priching, he turned arrownd and left.
I know what you mean, my friend is using verses to try to preach how women shouldn’t and I’m trying to find proof where it says women can speak as well, if you have a verse that can help me plz email it to me,
LOLJUDGER@yahoo.com
I was just studying this very topic for a Bible study Im teaching – here’s what I found: If we look at the context of 1 Corin 14:34-35, we see that it is right in the middle of a passage on “Order in Church Meetings.”
Remember, the books of 1 and 2 Corinthians are about “Christians gone wild” – the Christians in Corinth were doing just about everything wrong (breaking up into sects, being boastful, following the world, being immoral – a man was sleeping with his mother-in-law, suing each other, getting divorces, abusing their liberties as Christians, perverting and misuing spiritual gifts, etc) and so Paul was writing to correct them.
Apparently, when they’d come together for a church service, the rich people would gobble up all the food and leave the poor people with nothing to eat, they’d all get drunk off the communion wine, everyone would start jabbering in “tongues” and prophesying at the same time – it was utter chaos!
SO, Paul was writing to try and establish some order because, obviously, disorder isnt what God wants (1 Corin 14:33).
Apparently, the women in Corinth were jumping in too and over communicating the men… and when women take charge – what do men tend to do?… let them! It all goes back to the curse – women will want to control the men and the dudes will give in and be weak and controlled. This isnt God’s plan for humanity – instead a result of the Fall. Paul was just trying to establish some order and set things up so that men could lead the church as God ordained. Women can usually out-communicate men – so Paul was reminding women to let the dudes do the talking… or else they wont be coming to church!
Here are some verses I found supporting women teaching in an “orderly” way:
Titus 2:3-5 – “older women…teachers of good things to younger women”
2 Tim 1:5, 2 Tim 3:15 – Timothy’s mother and grandmother “taught him the Scriptures from childhood”
Women prophesying: Miriam (Moses’ sister) – Exodus 15:20, Deborah – Judges 4:4, Huldah – 2 Kings 22:14, Isaiah’s wife – Is 8:3; Anna – Luke 2:36; Phillip’s 4 daughters – Acts 21:9
Women teachers, yes. Women prophets, yes. Women dconesses, yes. Women preachers? Nothing in the Bible says that is ok yet their is scripture saying women should not be leaders over men.
Maybe it would help to know that Pastor means servant and not master or leadership.
Pastor Winston
For the record, Deborah was leading (judging) Israel. That means that she was God’s appointed servant to settle disputes. If you say that she was only prophetess without giving her due as the leader of the Israelites, you ignore the fact that God chose a woman to be in a leadership role over men.
God, being omnipotent, can choose to appoint anyone to do His will, which includes teaching. I’m having difficulty understanding the difference between teaching and preaching as it’s come up in this conversation. It seems to be based in semantics. From what I’ve read in Scripture, men are chosen to lead, but if God can raise up children for Abraham from the stones, I think it’s safe to say that he could call a woman to do anything, just as he called Deborah to lead Israel (and because the men didn’t listen to God’s instruction through Deborah, He made it so the men of Israel lost the honor of killing Sisera. A woman killed him. (Judges 4)) In the case of a woman taking the lead in a situation, I believe it is more often an exceptional case, rather than what should be the norm.